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[Haasth]

So. I couldn't find any thread about this, so I figured I would make one.
I'm sure by now most people that look around here are aware by now that BioWare is making a new MMORPG named "Star Wars: The Old Republic".

Trailer of Epic-ness
http://www.swtor.com...nematic-trailer

Gamecon 2009 Walkthrough:
Part 1:
Part 2:
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLgdzZHxqjo&feature=channel
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIFrtjCTJjo&feature=channel

Official website
http://www.swtor.com/



The classes:
Bounty Hunter (Empire):
Class Page: http://www.swtor.com...s/bounty-hunter
Sith Warrior (Empire):
Class Page: http://www.swtor.com...es/sith-warrior
Trooper (Republic):
Class Page: http://www.swtor.com...classes/trooper
Smuggler (Republic):
Class Page: http://www.swtor.com...lasses/smuggler
Short video: http://www.swtor.com...lips/smuggler-2
Jedi Knight (Republic):
Class Page: http://www.swtor.com...ses/jedi-knight
Jedi Consular (Republic):
Imperial Agent (Empire):
Sith Inquisitor (Empire):



Developer Dispatch
Trooper: http://www.swtor.com.../devdispatch003
Diverse Worlds: http://www.swtor.com.../devdispatch002
Tython: http://www.swtor.com.../devdispatch001

Completely voiced.
Quite ambitious of BioWare, every encounter will have a dialogue where each choice has a different result. (Ala Mass Effect style). Never done before in a MMO.

Cover system.
As far as I am aware, this hasn't been seen in a MMORPG before either. A cover system.

Alignments.
As you advance, based on your decisions, you gain 'dark side' or 'light side' points. (Not sure if those are the exact names). Basically moral choices. This counts for all classes, thus Sith Warriors aren't bound to being pure evil only.



Some information. (Full thread here: http://www.swtor.com...ad.php?t=44704)
General & World Experience

Quote

General aspects affecting/dealing with classes and world experience.

    * How "good" or "evil" you are is based on LS/DS points (link)
    * All classes playable as both male and female. (link [see video])
    * Experience based character leveling system. (link)
    * "You can also try to go down a more "gray" path, much like Qui-Gon Jinn." (link)
    * Free jumping (link)
    * There will be other playable races outside of human. (link)
    * There will be "branches" within classes. (link)

Combat
Confirmed aspects of the combat system.

    * WASD movement with both mouse click and number hit ability activation. (link)
    * Multiple enemies in encounters in non-instanced areas, fighting concurrently. (Video Doc)
    * "Mana" & "Action Point" style systems for Jedi/Sith (link)
    * At least some abilities are ranked (rank 1, rank 2, etc) (Video Doc "force choke rank one")
    * Combat Log exists on UI(Video Doc)
    * There are ability "limitations/unlocks" based light side, dark side, or "gray". (link)


Equipment
Confirmed Equipment details

    * General
          o Companions will be in game, tradeable, "and you can romance, and befriend or betray."-James Ohlen (link)
    * Ranged
          o Blaster-Rifles have attachments. (Holonet) [Trooper]
          o Pistols can be dual wielded. (Holonet) [Smuggler]
    * Melee
          o Lightsabers will change throughout your level progression, you will "not end up with the same lightsaber you started off with" (link) [Jedi/Sith]
          o Lightsabers can be dual wielded and looted. (link) [Jedi/Sith]


Abilities
Confirmed Generic Abilities available to classes with access to associated categorization

    * General
          o All classes will have an out of combat heal. (link)
    * Ranged/Melee
          o "Players will be able to use weapons to put their targets back into the correct range for their primary weapon skill, [...] A stun for example, so you can run up and engage in close combat or move further away for ranged combat." (link)
    * Force User Specific
          o [Passive] Lightsaber blaster deflection is a passive ability. (link)
          o [Melee] Force Jump into combat (link)
          o [Unlock] Dual Wielding lightsabers will unlock unique DW only abilities (link)

PvP (Full article: http://www.tentonham...com/node/47133)

Quote

Will PvP be in the game? How are you handling that system?

James: There will be PvP in the game There's a reason why we decided to build two factions into the game,

The game is called Star *Wars*. We're always thinking about that. It's always about war. It's always about conflict. When the writers are penning the story, we always try to remind them that this is Star Wars. It's about the wars, and the conflict.

Think about the movies, that's what is exciting about them. Any sort of PvP mechanic we have we want to make feel like Star Wars. There are definitely certain things that that means....that I really can't talk about. *laughs*

Concept Art
Sith Garment

Jedi Garment

Smuggler

Bounty Hunter

Trooper

More: http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts

Edited by Caescen, 28 November 2009 - 07:40 AM.

[Dei]

Sexy bounty hunter is sexy. I'll get this game, and play as a bounty hunter, regardless of that sexy bounty hunter.. [I tried not to make a hot joke thar ;P]

EDIT: Ignore this post, thanks to Cae's editting the picture is no longer there. Stupid spoil sport that he is. D:

Edited by Dei, 27 August 2009 - 12:40 AM.

[Haasth]

Dei, on Aug 23 2009, 01:27 AM, said:

Sexy bounty hunter is sexy. I'll get this game, and play as a bounty hunter, regardless of that sexy bounty hunter.. [I tried not to make a hot joke thar ;P]

Haha. Yes, well, so far everyone I know of wants to be a bounty hunter. That'll be interesting.
Either way. This game looks really good and has some very ambitious elements for a MMORPG. I only wish they would give us a release date.

And unless there'll be a more tech-related class, I'm a bounty hunter too!
So lets all go and look alike!

Also. I should add. The walkthrough is pretty great.
Shows off some great landscape, interesting dialogue and all the classes, including the first look at the Sith Warrior class.

Also, the multiplayer dialogue system is great. Basically take turns.

Edited by Caescen, 22 August 2009 - 06:48 PM.

[Garbageben]

I like almost everything I've seen about the game so far.  The stylized realism is a good way to go.  My one concern about the multiplayer dialogue is if your partner chooses an option that you normally wouldn't.  In actuality that could make the game even more exciting by not only having your choices affect the game, but potentially have others affect your story.  The downside is that someone can completely ruin what you want to do with your character by the choices they may choose in a dialogue.  I trust Bioware will figure how to handle truly large decisions in the story progression of your character (maybe have solo missions for major story decisions or something).

All in all it looks pretty interesting and leaves the SW geek in me wanting more...

[Haasth]

Garbageben, on Aug 23 2009, 02:03 AM, said:

I like almost everything I've seen about the game so far.  The stylized realism is a good way to go.  My one concern about the multiplayer dialogue is if your partner chooses an option that you normally wouldn't.  In actuality that could make the game even more exciting by not only having your choices affect the game, but potentially have others affect your story.  The downside is that someone can completely ruin what you want to do with your character by the choices they may choose in a dialogue.  I trust Bioware will figure how to handle truly large decisions in the story progression of your character (maybe have solo missions for major story decisions or something).

All in all it looks pretty interesting and leaves the SW geek in me wanting more...

Yeah. I was thinking of that too. Just have to be careful with whom you pick as your party members I guess.
But then again, I do not think the choices another player does (E.g killing someone) affects your character. So in a way it only affects the quest. (Which still could be bad, but interesting either way).
You wouldn't get any 'dark side' points for that. I'd think.

[Dei]

Caescen, on Aug 23 2009, 02:06 AM, said:

Yeah. I was thinking of that too. Just have to be careful with whom you pick as your party members I guess.
But then again, I do not think the choices another player does (E.g killing someone) affects your character. So in a way it only affects the quest. (Which still could be bad, but interesting either way).
You wouldn't get any 'dark side' points for that. I'd think.

Mhm, because being a bounty hunter soooo is the most moral career choice. 'sides, I'll try to be in your party often so...muchos darkos pointos! Yay!

Also interesting to see nobody's going "OMFG I BE SIFF/JEDIE!"

[Haasth]

Dei, on Aug 23 2009, 11:50 AM, said:

Mhm, because being a bounty hunter soooo is the most moral career choice. 'sides, I'll try to be in your party often so...muchos darkos pointos! Yay!

Also interesting to see nobody's going "OMFG I BE SIFF/JEDIE!"

Ha. No way I'm getting you in my party!
Besides, good chance I'm going to be republic. All they got to show is something engineer ish class.

And regarding the 'siff/jedie!'. You'd be surprised. Take a look at their official forums. Mostly Bounty Hunter fans out there. LOTS of them. And they want their own ship which they can name... and being capable of placing bounties on people from both factions... and... Well... Yeah.

In fact. The thread ratio from Bounty Hunters to Sith Warriors is 5:1. Currently. With the post count being... The same! If that says much.

Edited by Caescen, 23 August 2009 - 05:07 AM.

[Dei]

Weird, SWG had like..Jedi and siff swarming all over.

[Haasth]

Added:
Some information. (Full thread here: http://www.swtor.com...ad.php?t=44704)
General & World Experience

Quote

General aspects affecting/dealing with classes and world experience.

    * How "good" or "evil" you are is based on LS/DS points (link)
    * All classes playable as both male and female. (link [see video])
    * Experience based character leveling system. (link)
    * "You can also try to go down a more "gray" path, much like Qui-Gon Jinn." (link)
    * Free jumping (link)
    * There will be other playable races outside of human. (link)
    * There will be "branches" within classes. (link)

Combat
Confirmed aspects of the combat system.

    * WASD movement with both mouse click and number hit ability activation. (link)
    * Multiple enemies in encounters in non-instanced areas, fighting concurrently. (Video Doc)
    * "Mana" & "Action Point" style systems for Jedi/Sith (link)
    * At least some abilities are ranked (rank 1, rank 2, etc) (Video Doc "force choke rank one")
    * Combat Log exists on UI(Video Doc)
    * There are ability "limitations/unlocks" based light side, dark side, or "gray". (link)


Equipment
Confirmed Equipment details

    * General
          o Companions will be in game, tradeable, "and you can romance, and befriend or betray."-James Ohlen (link)
    * Ranged
          o Blaster-Rifles have attachments. (Holonet) [Trooper]
          o Pistols can be dual wielded. (Holonet) [Smuggler]
    * Melee
          o Lightsabers will change throughout your level progression, you will "not end up with the same lightsaber you started off with" (link) [Jedi/Sith]
          o Lightsabers can be dual wielded and looted. (link) [Jedi/Sith]


Abilities
Confirmed Generic Abilities available to classes with access to associated categorization

    * General
          o All classes will have an out of combat heal. (link)
    * Ranged/Melee
          o "Players will be able to use weapons to put their targets back into the correct range for their primary weapon skill, [...] A stun for example, so you can run up and engage in close combat or move further away for ranged combat." (link)
    * Force User Specific
          o [Passive] Lightsaber blaster deflection is a passive ability. (link)
          o [Melee] Force Jump into combat (link)
          o [Unlock] Dual Wielding lightsabers will unlock unique DW only abilities (link)

To the initial post. Full thread (See link) contains links to videos, and other sources of information that confirm these claims.

EDIT 2:
Added
PvP (Full article: http://www.tentonham...com/node/47133)

Quote

Will PvP be in the game? How are you handling that system?

James: There will be PvP in the game There's a reason why we decided to build two factions into the game,

The game is called Star *Wars*. We're always thinking about that. It's always about war. It's always about conflict. When the writers are penning the story, we always try to remind them that this is Star Wars. It's about the wars, and the conflict.

Think about the movies, that's what is exciting about them. Any sort of PvP mechanic we have we want to make feel like Star Wars. There are definitely certain things that that means....that I really can't talk about. *laughs*

And figured I'd go and suggest an 'Engineer' class.
http://www.swtor.com...958#post1433958

EDIT 3:
Updated initial post on the classes. Added some vids. All that.

EDIT 4:
http://www.heroengin...aracter-systems Is, if I recall correctly, the engine it will be built on.

Edited by Caescen, 23 August 2009 - 10:47 AM.

[Erix]

I've been following this game for some time. I have high hopes for it.

[Haasth]

I am going to quote the following, for people that think Light-Sith wont work, or Dark-Jedi.
A quote from Daniel Erickson;
'If you were a light-side Sith, you do not jump over and join the people committing genocide against your people. You try to make the Empire a better place. You try to take your people, take over, and say 'Hey, this isn't how the Empire should run, I have a better idea.'

[Haasth]

Found this interesting image, basically a look at the HUD:


And also made sure to add the Trailer to the initial thread.
Stays awesome. Also the full version, so not like some websites show you. (They lack the beginning and end).

[Team Black]

I am scared of this game. If I buy it, it might burn up every last second of my time

[Haasth]

Team Black, on Aug 26 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

I am scared of this game. If I buy it, it might burn up every last second of my time

Well then, be sure to do as much as you can the coming year or so, because after that you'll belong to The Old Republic.

EDIT:
Also updated the developer dispatch media on the first post.

Edited by Caescen, 26 August 2009 - 07:22 AM.

[Dei]

...But I want to belong to the Empire..

[Haasth]

Found a way to get images and concept art off the official website.
Added some concept art for each known class, to the first post.

Edited by Caescen, 26 August 2009 - 08:11 AM.

[Dr. Knickers]

I happen to dislike how the Republic troopers look so similar to Clone Troopers from the Prequels. Just seems like a way to cater to the screaming 10 year old fanboys who watch things like the new cartoon. The Republic soldier uniforms in KotOR and KotOR II were much better looking.

[Haasth]

Dr. Knickers, on Aug 26 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

I happen to dislike how the Republic troopers look so similar to Clone Troopers from the Prequels. Just seems like a way to cater to the screaming 10 year old fanboys who watch things like the new cartoon. The Republic soldier uniforms in KotOR and KotOR II were much better looking.

They have multiple looks, however.
I merely linked one for each class.

Here is some other Trooper concept art:

Edited by Caescen, 26 August 2009 - 10:41 AM.

[Thundertactics]

EA Press Conference, GC09, this part is about the Old Republic:

[Haasth]

Thundertactics, on Aug 26 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

EA Press Conference, GC09, this part is about the Old Republic:

Ha. Nice find.
Nothing new though, simply the old - although awesome - trailer in German...