AlexRuiz, on 18 March 2010 - 10:34 PM, said:
You got some little facts wrong here... We haven't crowned Vod as the best of us, and we won't in a while. He has the best micro around, and probably the most natural talent, as you admitted yourself, but you also showed that knowledge
of the game, units and tactics matter even more. By beating Vod, you in fact proved a point Volc and I have been making all along: macro >> micro
The good news for Vod is that good macro is given with experience and knowledge, so he will get it.
We are so full of it? Probably, but no more than you. The players of old school were good, we have never denied it. However, like many other things, the situations evolve. The old schools tactics are learned, and improved.
Furthermore, because we "mid age" players play only custom, we didn't learn that there was this hot shot new player slicing through the ranks like butter until like a month ago... that should tell you how much we care about the "hard earned victories in ranked"
Well I haven't observed too many improvements on tactics since I play on and off and nothing seems to beat the time-tested old stuff... proof is in the pudding for me.
And if you guys don't care about ranked or care about seeing who is best, why focus on getting all tripped over dashboarding and the like? Why has Vod said he wants to take No.1 spot for 'justice?' Must mean something...
Saphri, on 18 March 2010 - 10:38 PM, said:
tournaments are where it matters, and vOdtoast has yet to be beaten in a uaw tournament so i will say he is the best. if anyone else shows up and wins the tournament, i will be open to changing my opinion on this. he has done a lot for uaw in the short time he has been in the community. he raises awareness about the game on other gaming forums, writes helpful articles, started weekly tournaments, and inspired more players to get into it. even his girlfriend plays the game now ;p
he also got into an ugly fight with the ceo of gamereplays.org because the guy didnt want uaw on his site.
So multiple 1v1 games are somehow equal to or greater than a tournament? Riiiiiight... If your focus is between one or two or three players, I would say 1v1 is the way to go, because even if A beats B, but B beats C, it doesn't necessarily mean that A will beat C. I think if A beats B,C, and the rest of the alphabet (which is why I actively look for good opponents) it is more telling. I can't remember the last time I played Purified, but I do remember he was pretty good in his own way also. I'll have to go find the replay to see what faction he was, but I think it was on Eastern Europe. Another close game, but I vividly remember playing Kelathin, who always got me once and a while--those games were frickin' intense!
Anyways, I would differentiate Macro and over Strategy. While Micro is important, it is heavily biased in favor of PC, but it can be compensated for if the difference in Macro and/or strategy is great enough, otherwise, all things being equal, PC players should win in RTS games. Best Micro player I ever saw was trm Leprechaun. He's on the 3rd page or something now, but he excelled in games like C&C because of his mad micro abilities, he plays pc now.
Edited by JAGX, 19 March 2010 - 05:55 PM.