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[Piglet]

Well it seemed very, ehm, patronising, the way you said it. So i drew my conclusion.

[Commander Loony]

Thunder, on 04 December 2011 - 05:44 AM, said:

Jesus! That's what I'm talking about, a prime example of an internet badass who makes violent death threats online but would be scared shitless if it came down to a real life confrontation. She would sh*t her pants and run if she met you face to face.

Actually, such a confrontation would never happen in person, the anonymity that is the Internet grants anyone knee-jerk reactions to trivial matters because all the time in the world is theirs to do so. In a face-to-face situation, one would feel too pressured by psychological cues (such as their surroundings - the people around them and their target, all of these would have a collective impact on this person's response. From a frown to a twitch of an eyebrow. You wouldn't even have to say anything to influence most conversations) and most people just aren't witty enough to have needle-sharp replies before a discussion/confrontation would expire.

Right now it's taking me almost fifteen minutes to write this response, because I have time to construct it and think it out, anticipate a response and come up with several counter-points should my primay anticipation go ary. But face to face I have zero time to do all that, I'd mind-fumble, blurt out some nonsensical ranting that held more swearing than fact giving, and wrap up my primitive response with a "...and yeah."
And yeah.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut anyway, you can't have everything! And as long as the Internet still functions, so will the stupids that plague it.

Hence why society is on the downfall and cybersociety (totally snagging that word if it's not been created already CALLED IT, DIBS) is on the rise.

Haasth, on 04 December 2011 - 12:07 PM, said:

Incapable of understanding why people care about YouTube videos. YouTube videos are an equal medium comparable to TV or any other kind of show found on the internet. Surely you understand why people care about those? Entertainment. This can be achieved in a multitude of ways, informative videos, comedy videos, you name it. People like to spend their time watching them for the same reason they like watching TV, be it reality shows, movies, cartoons or the discovery channel. All of these are comparable to partners/developers on websites and other platforms of which YouTube is one of the biggest - if not the biggest. I honestly don't see any reason to explain why people care about them from a viewer standpoint.

Indeed, YouTube is already overshadowing TV, and just like the video killed the radio star, YouTube will mercilessly slay, decapitate, and defile the corpse of television. Society as a whole can agree that YouTube is an influential factor in said society. The news pulls some of their stories from YouTube, and half of their footage FOR stories from YouTube. Big companies can observe how the entities of YouTube (that's people) respond to products or media or any other kind of crap and adapt their plans to accomodate the collective opinions. The majority say "this is awesome!" then the companies/labels/something that makes things that people like are on the right track. If the majority put massive thumbs down and say "this is fake and gay", they'll take notice and avoid any further errors.

YouTube, as much as the Internet itself (the safer lands anyway, none who go out into the uncharted territories ever come back the same), is ultimately the decider of most world events. The planned ones anyway. YouTube is what voters are to a new presidency, in retrospect.

And yeah.

[Cheeseinator]

Grinding my gears of late is Best Buy. After weeks of research I finally decided on what would be the perfect laptop for the perfect price, Best Buy won't let me have it. They won't ship it, my only option is to drive across a couple of states to get it if I really wanted it. But now it's not available at all in any store even though it still shows up on Best Buy's site. So after further searching I found that my specific store in my town had an "out of box" special on an almost identical laptop, but you had to actually go to the the store to get it, you couldn't order it or anything. So I went and it turns out that they don't have it, they just forgot to update their local site store.

I hate them. This search for a laptop is driving me insane!!!! *foaming mouth*

Haasth, on 04 December 2011 - 12:07 PM, said:

Incapable of understanding why people care about YouTube videos. YouTube videos are an equal medium comparable to TV or any other kind of show found on the internet. Surely you understand why people care about those? Entertainment. This can be achieved in a multitude of ways, informative videos, comedy videos, you name it. People like to spend their time watching them for the same reason they like watching TV, be it reality shows, movies, cartoons or the discovery channel. All of these are comparable to partners/developers on websites and other platforms of which YouTube is one of the biggest - if not the biggest. I honestly don't see any reason to explain why people care about them from a viewer standpoint.

Now lets look at it from a developer standpoint. They get to create videos, much like TV producers develop shows or directors develop movies for the purpose of catching an audience. What can be achieved out of said audience? Either it can merely be a recognition for the work you put into something you enjoyed making or it can be to make an actual living out of it.

So why then does popularity matter? Quite simple. Popularity equals more views and a bigger audience. This equals more attention and recognition, and in some cases more money. The exact same reason TV shows require popularity. The exact same reason any form of media requires popularity. Without popularity those forms of media would no longer continue to exist as they would be effectively pointless.

Whether or not you like a specific form of media, in this case YouTube - which may I add is an incredibly broad form of media that covers all kinds of people and interests so I am sure even you would find entertainment out of it - is subjective. But surely you can understand why people care about them, and their popularity? If not, I do consider that very narrow-minded.

I agree with the usefulness of youtube and the need for some sort of measurable popularity. I however do not feel that unrestricted comments are the best way to do it. I think that with a view count and a user rate thing would be adequate for popularity measuring purposes. Comments are not necessary for such a task. And I see how certain comments may help the author, that's a huge may. But I don't see the value of wading through pages of garbage to find the occasional useful comment. Or there's gotta be an efficient way to get rid of the vast sea of stupidity to find the small islands of constructive criticism.

[Dei]

Cheeseinator, on 06 December 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

Grinding my gears of late is Best Buy.

Try Newegg.com, infinitely less suck as Best Buy, as far as I've heard from everyone.

Cheeseinator, on 06 December 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

Comments are not necessary for such a task. And I see how certain comments may help the author, that's a huge may.

The main reason for comments is to make the viewers feel like they have some form of interaction with the uploader. It's merely a form of entertainment for the viewers. It's not really necessary in most cases since, "omg plz maek diz a mod" is far from constructive criticism or proper praise. It's fun though, I see no reason to remove it.

[Thunder]

Commander Loony, on 04 December 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

Actually, such a confrontation would never happen in person, the anonymity that is the Internet grants anyone knee-jerk reactions to trivial matters because all the time in the world is theirs to do so. In a face-to-face situation, one would feel too pressured by psychological cues (such as their surroundings - the people around them and their target, all of these would have a collective impact on this person's response. From a frown to a twitch of an eyebrow. You wouldn't even have to say anything to influence most conversations) and most people just aren't witty enough to have needle-sharp replies before a discussion/confrontation would expire.

Indeed. Psychological issues would determine a lot in the outcome. One's looks, the tone of one's voice, one's physique, the look in one's eyes etc. would have a great impact. And it's also correct that it's hard to come with good crushing replies when the discussion/confrontation goes on, they usually come afterwards. You come up with all the good replies when the confrontation is over because then you have the time to contemplate what was said and what would be a good counter to it.

[Dei]

Yeah, always hate the, "..I should've said that. I would've absolutely crushed the person with it."

What I absolutely hate though, is apple fags. [I totally changed what I was going to say here, because an Apple fag just exclaimed that we should learn Objective-C which is for Apple, which are 3 guys here]

[Piglet]

my gears get grinded by Origin.

I downloaded 93% of the update for BF 3 and then had to turn off my computer. I pauzed the update first and then closed off origin, and after that turned off my computer. As not to corrupt the download.

This morning I started it up and Origin said I had downloaded 93 percent of the update, so I said: continue updating.
origin said: TROLOLOLOLOLOL, I AM AT 26% NAO!

This means I have to redownload it the entire day again when no-one uses the computer since it sucks up all bandwith.

[Dei]

It's ~3.6 GB, how does that take a day?

[Piglet]

CRAPPY INTERNETS AND OTHER PEOPLE WANTING TO USE THE INTERNETS!, THATS HOW! D:

Currently in luck, only one online at the moment and this means it's close to 80%.

[Commander Loony]

It takes four days to fully download a 4GB update for me. F*ck you Steam. F*ck you.

[slornie]

The sooner Steam rolls out their new updating system the better!

[Piglet]

What grinds my gears are assistant referees who are blind and say goals are invalid while they are not and validate goals that aren't!

And that all not in favour of my favorite team.

Atleast I know who the real winner is today.

[Haasth]

Commander Loony, on 07 December 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

It takes four days to fully download a 4GB update for me. F*ck you Steam. F*ck you.

That takes me about 15-30 minutes, huzzah!

[Dei]

Takes me 3ish hours. But hey, I'm not Australian. [Usually around 2ish hours, but I tend to get really unlucky with my average speed dropping to a way less than average one now and then]

[Cheeseinator]

Writers Block, that grinds mah gears. Especially as I have to finish this paper by tomorrow.

[Commander Loony]

Haasth, on 07 December 2011 - 03:36 PM, said:

That takes me about 15-30 minutes, huzzah!

*kills you*

I refuse to buy games that have Steam support for this reason! Automatic updating you cannot stop, even when you clearly told the program not to do it. Steam grinds my gears!

[Piglet]

I agree on that, I can not play skyrim because it needs to update. What if i don't want to freaking update?!

[Dei]

...56 MB. You're whining about 56 MB.

[Piglet]

At that time I wasn't aware and playing Terroria.

[Cheeseinator]

Piglet, on 08 December 2011 - 05:22 AM, said:

I agree on that, I can not play skyrim because it needs to update. What if i don't want to freaking update?!

Yeah that's the big epic suck of modern gaming. What if I don't want the latest patch? What if I liked the game just fine without it? Previously this wasn't a big deal and you could just play singleplayer or in some cases multiplayer if there were people who had the same version as you and it was no big deal. Nowadays you can't even open the game unless it's up-to-date.