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#1 popcorn2008

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 02:24 PM

I was thinking to myself today, will it possible for the rebels to steal technology from the consortium? I mean instead of sending C-3PO and R2-D2 to an imperial world can they steal from the consortium instead? I was thinking they must be able to because in a galactic conquest multiplayer game since you can only have two human teams, if one was rebellion and the other was consortium what would you do?

Also, I was thinking say for example I started a multiplayer galactic conquest. I am rebellion and my opponent is say the consortium. Will there be a computer controlled Empire team? Or would the remaining planets be controlled by the Black Sun as is in Empire at War.

Oh, and how do you think the consortium will destroy the DS II? My guess is sabatoge?

:lol: Just a few puzzling game dynamics I was thinking about!
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 02:31 PM

View Postpopcorn2008, on Oct 12 2006, 03:24 PM, said:

I was thinking to myself today, will it possible for the rebels to steal technology from the consortium? I mean instead of sending C-3PO and R2-D2 to an imperial world can they steal from the consortium instead? I was thinking they must be able to because in a galactic conquest multiplayer game since you can only have two human teams, if one was rebellion and the other was consortium what would you do?

Also, I was thinking say for example I started a multiplayer galactic conquest. I am rebellion and my opponent is say the consortium. Will there be a computer controlled Empire team? Or would the remaining planets be controlled by the Black Sun as is in Empire at War.

Oh, and how do you think the consortium will destroy the DS II? My guess is sabatoge?

:lol: Just a few puzzling game dynamics I was thinking about!

Interesting idea. I don't think it is tho, or we would have heard about it by now. It should be something that can be modded in tho.

I would imagine they would be controlled by black sun or the hutts (since I believe they are both in FOC).

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 04:21 PM

View Postpopcorn2008, on Oct 12 2006, 12:24 PM, said:

I was thinking to myself today, will it possible for the rebels to steal technology from the consortium? I mean instead of sending C-3PO and R2-D2 to an imperial world can they steal from the consortium instead? I was thinking they must be able to because in a galactic conquest multiplayer game since you can only have two human teams, if one was rebellion and the other was consortium what would you do?

Also, I was thinking say for example I started a multiplayer galactic conquest. I am rebellion and my opponent is say the consortium. Will there be a computer controlled Empire team? Or would the remaining planets be controlled by the Black Sun as is in Empire at War.

Oh, and how do you think the consortium will destroy the DS II? My guess is sabatoge?

:lol: Just a few puzzling game dynamics I was thinking about!

While the tech theft lists will remain the same (aside from adding the new units), you can now send the droids to Consortium worlds as well as Empire to get that tech.  For the Consortium, the black markets have different items depending on who owns the planet (Rebel or Empire).

While it depends on the GC campaign you pick, in general the AI will take over for whichever side you didn't choose, so in your scenario, the Empire would be AI controlled.  We mostly removed the pirate faction from campaigns since it wasn't needed with the addition of the Consortium.

IG-88 is the Consortium DS2 killer.  While he is very expensive, he's much more efficient at it :)
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 04:36 PM

wow this looks sweeter..
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 04:48 PM

View PostTorpid-PG, on Oct 12 2006, 03:21 PM, said:

While the tech theft lists will remain the same (aside from adding the new units), you can now send the droids to Consortium worlds as well as Empire to get that tech.  For the Consortium, the black markets have different items depending on who owns the planet (Rebel or Empire).

While it depends on the GC campaign you pick, in general the AI will take over for whichever side you didn't choose, so in your scenario, the Empire would be AI controlled.  We mostly removed the pirate faction from campaigns since it wasn't needed with the addition of the Consortium.

IG-88 is the Consortium DS2 killer.  While he is very expensive, he's much more efficient at it :)

how does IG-88 kill the DS2 is it like the rebels where if u win the battle and IG-88's in the battle he destroys it?? or do u find it on Glactic map and destroy it i hope not...that would suck  :angry2:
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 04:53 PM

Thanks for the responce Torpid! Hmmm.... now I wonder will the AI controlled faction (in my example Empire) actually attack the other 2 human players? Or I wonder if they will be dormint much like the Black Sun Pirates.

Also, Im glad to hear the black sun is gone for the most part, I hated having them around. :)
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 07:13 PM

Well Torpid as far as i can remember IG88 as a copy of his AI withing the main computercore of the DS II.

So he pluggs himself out? *lol*
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 07:16 PM

View PostCobra174, on Oct 12 2006, 02:48 PM, said:

how does IG-88 kill the DS2 is it like the rebels where if u win the battle and IG-88's in the battle he destroys it?? or do u find it on Glactic map and destroy it i hope not...that would suck  :angry2:

Well I don't want to give it away, but I will say it's VERY expensive to do, but when it happens the Empire player is likely going to be very unhappy :D
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 07:21 PM

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 07:27 PM

What im guessing is IG88 performs a sort of sabatoge at the galactic level, that will be expensive but most likely something you'll have to do if you dont want the DS II knocking at your door step :p
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 10:41 PM

I can guess that IG88 will implant his computer and steal the DS2 for the consortium...hence the empire player being very unhappy. You're not just donw one Death Star, you also got one knocking on YOUR door for a change.
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Posted 13 October 2006 - 06:15 AM

The Consortium gets the Death Star? That would suck. At the very least they should loose IG-88 as a hero. Maybe the Death Star becomes a hero unit...?

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 06:50 AM

No.  The Empire gets DS2, Consortium gets IG-88.
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Posted 13 October 2006 - 01:01 PM

hmm, i think the consortium does get it. If i remember right, there is a trailor/in game movie, that shows a player using the DSII to blow up a imp star destroyer. To me that would be a clue that perhaps the consortium does manage to steal the second death star. In GC however, i would assume that the DSII would just be destroyed, i mean, what sort of counter would the imps have to a rogue Death Star, build another one?!?

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 04:16 PM

"Duel of the Death Stars"... now wouldn't that be something?  :lol:

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 05:44 PM

Actually i'm pretty sure the zann consortium can build enemy units for a price so it could've been a zann consortium imperial star destroyer though i could be wrong.  If i am wrong then maybe an imperial hero would be needed to destroy the death star II.  It'd be hilarious though if ig-88 did hack into the death star and he managed to let the zann consortium at least use it for a limited time and make it destroy imperial planets on it way around the galaxy.  Something tells me though that with the way the devs are it'll be extremely hilarious and fun to be consortium when that happens and it'll really piss off whoevers on the imperial side.  

I actually find it kind of odd that they think the eclipse would overpower a side if it was given to the zann consortium cuz at the moment we have the death star for imperials and even though it's a superweapon it's incredible slow and if somebody faces it in a battle and rogue squadron wins then it's a scrap heap and the rebels instantly win the game and something similar for the zann consortium probably.

Btw if i were the imperials i wouldn't be so ######ing stupid.  When you lose the first death star you don't make another and even if you make it without an exhaust port it still takes up too many resources.  If they just used all those resources in mass star destroyers and ties (esp. more advanced ties like defender and phantom) the rebellion would be destroyed ages ago.

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Oh and btw torpid, you and sageking are definitely the best forum responders from the petroglyph team and you've anyswered loads of the questions i've been itching to know, thx for your answers.

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 08:50 PM

"Btw if i were the imperials i wouldn't be so ######ing stupid.  When you lose the first death star you don't make another and even if you make it without an exhaust port it still takes up too many resources.  If they just used all those resources in mass star destroyers and ties (esp. more advanced ties like defender and phantom) the rebellion would be destroyed ages ago."


Its obviously clear that you dont know what your talking about "to a degree". First the deaths stars while a big construction project was a lighter strain on a Galatic Empire's economy since it had the resouces of an entire galaxy ( unlike in EAW the rebels were always fleeing from the Imperial Navy and had very few bases of operations set up). If you want to know more about the Deaths Stars go to this hyperlink http://www.theforce....C/ds/index.html . While your thoughts on the ecomonic strain for the death stars were a bit off I agree the Deaths Stars were a waste of resources that couldve been better spent.

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 02:32 PM

View PostMagus65, on Oct 13 2006, 07:50 PM, said:

"Btw if i were the imperials i wouldn't be so ######ing stupid.  When you lose the first death star you don't make another and even if you make it without an exhaust port it still takes up too many resources.  If they just used all those resources in mass star destroyers and ties (esp. more advanced ties like defender and phantom) the rebellion would be destroyed ages ago."
Its obviously clear that you dont know what your talking about "to a degree". First the deaths stars while a big construction project was a lighter strain on a Galatic Empire's economy since it had the resouces of an entire galaxy ( unlike in EAW the rebels were always fleeing from the Imperial Navy and had very few bases of operations set up). If you want to know more about the Deaths Stars go to this hyperlink http://www.theforce....C/ds/index.html . While your thoughts on the ecomonic strain for the death stars were a bit off I agree the Deaths Stars were a waste of resources that couldve been better spent.

Actually i don't have a huge understanding on the death star but i do know they must have lost a load when the death star was destroyed.  Also they probably lost far too many men when that thing blew and if the empire fought the rebels back then without the death star it would've been much easier to win.  The death star actually made the rebellion stronger because instead of just destroying rebels they'd kill off a whole planet with the death star (this makes joining the rebellion seem like a good idea).  Also the rebels took out the death star with luck and in most land and space battles rebels totally sucked esp. in ground battles because at-at's easily took the hoth base.

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 07:55 PM

View Postpopcorn2008, on Oct 12 2006, 03:24 PM, said:

I was thinking to myself today, will it possible for the rebels to steal technology from the consortium? I mean instead of sending C-3PO and R2-D2 to an imperial world can they steal from the consortium instead? I was thinking they must be able to because in a galactic conquest multiplayer game since you can only have two human teams, if one was rebellion and the other was consortium what would you do?

Also, I was thinking say for example I started a multiplayer galactic conquest. I am rebellion and my opponent is say the consortium. Will there be a computer controlled Empire team? Or would the remaining planets be controlled by the Black Sun as is in Empire at War.

Oh, and how do you think the consortium will destroy the DS II? My guess is sabatoge?

:lol: Just a few puzzling game dynamics I was thinking about!

i believe the Rebels will be able to steal from the Consortium to gain tech levels, kind of ironic if you ask me

and for galactic conquest, all 3 factions will be played, the computer will control the Empire and Rebels if you were the Consortium
at least that is what it should be

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Posted 15 October 2006 - 06:50 AM

I've never seen this "IG-88" What on earth must I have done to have missed it?  :huh:
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