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NEWS: Blair to announce troop withdrawals from Iraq

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 04:14 AM

http://uk.news.yahoo...aq-reports.html

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LONDON (AFP) - Prime Minister Tony Blair was to announce on Wednesday that his government will begin withdrawing thousands of troops from Iraq within weeks, according to media reports.

According to The Sun, The Times and the BBC, Blair would say that the first contingent of about 1,500 troops will leave the war-torn country and return to Britain in a matter of weeks, and a further 1,500 will follow by the end of the year.

The Guardian said, meanwhile, that Britain will withdraw all of its troops from Iraq by the end of 2008, beginning this summer with about a thousand troops, citing unidentified officials.

The Financial Times reported that about 1,600 troops would return to Britain, but did not say when.

While a spokesman for Blair's Downing Street office declined to confirm or deny any of the reports, White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe confirmed that Blair told US President George W. Bush Tuesday of his plans for troop withdrawal.

"We view this as a success," Johndroe said, suggesting the British move was a sign of increasing stabilization in Iraq.

"They spoke about this this morning on the phone," he said.

Under pressure domestically to show progress in the war and attacked in Congress for escalating US troop levels amid rising violence, the White House called the British withdrawal a positive sign after Blair telephoned Bush.

"President Bush sees this as a sign of success and what is possible for us once we help the Iraqis deal with the sectarian violence in Baghdad," said White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe.

"The president is grateful for the support of the British forces in the past and into the future. While the United Kingdom is maintaining a robust force in southern Iraq, we're pleased that conditions in Basra have improved sufficiently that they are able to transition more control to the Iraqis," the spokesman said.

"The United States shares the same goal of turning responsibility over to the Iraqi Security Forces and reducing the number of American troops in Iraq."

Blair is set to appear before parliament on Wednesday for his weekly half-hour question-and-answer session. According to the BBC and Britain's domestic Press Association, Blair is expected to make his announcement shortly after that, at around 12:30 pm (1230 GMT).

As recently as Sunday, the News of the World weekly said that Britain was preparing to cut by half its 7,000-strong contingent in Iraq in May, while the Independent on Sunday reported that the government plans to withdraw 1,000 troops by April would be postponed as the United States sent additional troops.

The political calendar has also favoured a withdrawal -- Blair is set to resign by September, with finance minister Gordon Brown the favourite to succeed him, and Labour is lagging behind the main opposition Conservatives in opinion polls in the run-up to local and Scottish elections in May.

A recent poll by ICM for The Guardian put support for Labour at 31 percent, nine percentage points behind the Conservatives.

Britain has about 7,100 troops in Iraq, most of them based around Basra. It is the second-largest foreign contingent of soldiers after that of the United States.

The country's apparent decision to pull troops out of Iraq comes soon after Bush announced he would send 21,500 extra combat troops to the country, on top of the 138,000 US soldiers already there.

According to several of the media reports, Blair will say that Operation Sinbad -- involving attempts by British and Iraqi troops to secure Basra from insurgents -- has been a success, but will also stress that hopes for a withdrawal are conditional on signs that Iraqi forces are able to take over.

It was also reported that all of the British troops still left in Iraq would move to the country's base on the outskirts of Basra.

In an interview with the BBC on Sunday, Blair rejected suggestions that he should bear responsibility for the sectarian violence in Iraq, but said Britain and the United States had a duty to bring it to an end.

He said in the interview that Washington was not pressurising London to maintain its troop levels and recognised that the security situation was different in British-run Basra than in Baghdad.

The United Nations said in January that at least 34,452 Iraqis died across the country and another 36,685 were wounded in 2006.

A total of 132 British troops have died since the start of the US-led invasion in March 2003 while there have been 3,127 US military fatalities in the same period, according to an AFP count based on Pentagon figures.


Looks Like Blair is trying to cut and run from a Mistake In my opinion.
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 08:18 AM

about time too - where will we go and 'liberate' next ??

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why do u hate america? if it were not for us u guys would be lost. i mean we invented the tv, we invented the internet, cars and we even went to the planet moon. we won all the wars and we always help the little countries who cant fight and we give food to poor people.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 08:27 AM

That is good news. Now if only all foreign troops could leave....
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 10:30 AM

That will only "Embolden the enemy!" What a mistake Mr. Blair! Doesn't he know that only VICTORY is acceptable?!!

We wouldn't want to piss off anyone over there by leaving now would we. Oh, but terrorists think they WON! Surely they'll think they can just go anywhere and blow up anything they want then!

This is about as simple as I can put it... they will do that ANYWAY. Win or lose and we cant stop all of them. WE made this hornet nest in Iraq. It was relatively quiet before we made a mess. Now its out of control.

Bah... enough yammering. I grow tired of saying these things because a lot people disagree with me and I cant explain my point and have it make any sense to war mongers and macho types.
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 05:06 PM

now if only the US would follow suit

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 05:29 PM

Excellent news.
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 10:38 PM

View Postslornie, on Feb 21 2007, 07:18 AM, said:

about time too - where will we go and 'liberate' next ??

Iran
:mellow: Nuclear Middle Eastern country? (Guess which one I'm talking about) But that wouldn't be a good idea. They will probably be less troubling to the West in general once that idiot in their "presidency" is removed. Don't talk about Bush, people. We know he's leaving soon.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 07:15 AM

Crap!
But seriously, this IS going to give the insurgents a ginormous morale boost.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 07:36 AM

It wont make the enemy as happy as you think, remember America is still in there.

Its possible after we all pull out the terriosts may leave us alone.

Some say thats not possible put I think it is, I mean the U.S. is making some agreements with N. Korea lately, we should be able to make agreements with terriosts, its possible.

If that doesnt work, lets have N. Korea blow the crap outta Iraq for us.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 07:53 AM

North Korea is not full of islamic radicals. They can be reasoned with, and the terrorists on the other hand...
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 09:27 AM

Did you read the article doomtrooper?

The UK has taken on a huge burden and done a lot with it. They earned the right to leave.

As I already said in another thread, we(the United States) shouldn't be doing this alone, but we screwed up international support when we did it our way. So we are doing it pretty much alone with some indirect help. We can't just cut our losses and leave because unlike the UK we have screwed up more than we have fixed, and we took on a burden that obviously was too big for us to handle alone.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 09:54 AM

so we take 1600 soldiers out of Iraq and send an extra 1000 into Afghanistan...

http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/6388717.stm

EDIT: now confirmed as 1400 soldiers...

http://news.bbc.co.u...ics/6396001.stm

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why do u hate america? if it were not for us u guys would be lost. i mean we invented the tv, we invented the internet, cars and we even went to the planet moon. we won all the wars and we always help the little countries who cant fight and we give food to poor people.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 12:35 PM

View Postslornie, on Feb 23 2007, 06:54 AM, said:

so we take 1600 soldiers out of Iraq and send an extra 1000 into Afghanistan...

http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/6388717.stm



Lateral pressure from the good ol' Bush administration because they're getting reemed on that pullout from a lot of people here. They spin it as a good thing saying the pullout of Brits means things are going well but people are wise to that crap now.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 09:06 PM

I heard something bad happened in the U.K. at a peace rally, all the muslims where wearing masks and shouting threats at the U.K. Governemnt, I heard they were carrying around coffins and saying thing like death to democracy. The U.K. should have arrested those people.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:25 PM

Yeah. Freedom of speech has gone to far*...
They were also saying USA go to H311...
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:32 PM

Ya thats terrible, thats pretty much treason.

They seriously should have arrested those people.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:58 PM

They should revise that part of the Bill of Rights to "Freedom of speech within reason." People like that take these things too far. I also hate people who live in the US but burn a US flag. That should be illegal in my opinion.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 11:25 PM

It was. The Supreme Court said that it couldn't be. We have freedom of speech, whether you want us to or not. And that means letting people say whatever they want, as long as they don't (physically) hurt people in doing so.

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