C&C3 Demo is LIVE Finally!
#2
Posted 26 February 2007 - 05:24 PM
#4
Posted 26 February 2007 - 05:35 PM
#5
Posted 26 February 2007 - 05:38 PM
mastermind, on Feb 26 2007, 04:35 PM, said:
I'm going in. Hopefully it will be even half as good as Supcom is!! If that's the case I will be in gamers heaven with BF2142, Company of Heroes, Dawn of War and Forces of Corruption still on my current gaming lists.. there is just not enough time in the day with all of these great titles out!! I need to win the lottery so that I can quit my job and be able to play more
#8
Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:41 PM
I'm only going to say this once, and I'm going to say it loud because it needs to be said.
ANYONE WHO BUYS COMMAND AND CONQUER 3 IS SUPPORTING UNIMAGINATIVE, RETREADED UNORIGINALITY.
There is absolutely nothing in the demo, nor in the many conclusive previews, interviews, and everything else known about the game that gives a single reason why one would buy it. I could write a novel on the many number of reasons why one wouldn't buy it, but here's a small list.
1: It's Generals, all over again. It may be a prettier generals, and the units might have different names and slightly different functions, but it plays exactly the same.
2: Nothing good from Tiberian Sun or Firestorm finds it way into this so-called "sequal". There are no tiberian mutants, no ion storms, no Forgotten, no sonic weapons (other than a single defense turret) no hover units, no burrowing units...
3: It adds nothing new to the genre, and in fact it takes a few steps back. The viewpoint, for one thing, is annoying and makes it harder, not easier, to keep track of your units (especially infantry). I spent thirty minutes trying out all the hotkeys and options and didn't find a way to do anything other than rotate the view.
I could go on, but I have a very bad taste in my mouth after this demo. I really was hoping EA wouldn't do this, and despite all I'd read I was hoping that someone, somewhere was wrong. But if this demo is any indication of the game to come (and it fits all the previews I didn't want to believe)...then the line of games we knew as Command and Conquer is dead.
But each will have their own. You can buy the game, you might even enjoy it, but take note of what I said early. The PC gaming market is going downhill because too many developers and too many publishers aren't taking risks and moving things forward. CNC3 is a perfect example, in fact, it's a good example of the genre taking a few steps back. If people pay money and support these endeavors, then the PC gaming market isn't going to get any better, and we'll only find ourselves playing games that are exactly the same...over, and over, and over again.
-edit- I forgot to mention the "lazy" part of EA. It's obvious most of the unit ideas were lifted straight from Generals, and I even recognized several voice actors from Generals. That's a bit telling, don't you think?
This post has been edited by Xyvik: 26 February 2007 - 07:55 PM
#9
Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:05 PM
Quote
Quote
Oh yeah, it would be far better if they fired all their voice actors and then took all the time and effort to get new ones. That would really make this game better, and totally different from what it is now, having different voices for the random units.
When beset by doubt
Run in little circles
Wave your arms and shout
#10
Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:25 PM
1. The graphics are MUCH better than Generals.
2. The gameplay seems quite good, more like the original C&C.
3. The movies aren't horrible, but yes, they are really cheesey.
I'm going to reserve judgement until I get the game though.
Although, I do have to admit, the graphics do seem a lot nicer than the standard ones for EAW.
#13
Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:51 PM
I agree with Xyvik on EA's quality. I havent played C&C3 yet, so i have nothing to say about it. But EA are really starting to pump out the not-so-good products. Nearly everyone over at battlefieldfilefront are having a whinge over the whole 'Battlefield booster packs' how they're just patches that you have to pay for (while adding little new content).
I mean, EA are stupid. So stupid that they dont care what the public think of em (the public being the gamers). EA's good titles have come and gone and i doubt things will get any better. One day we should all band together and just ignore EA. Then see if they actually do anything.
Xyvik also claims that C&C3 so far has nothing really to do with the previous events in Tiberian history. That makes me sick! YARGH! I'm gonna go play Firestorm and whoop CABAL's hardrive. Prepare your defences fool, HERE I COME!
Whoever Cannot Take Care of Himself Without that Law is Both.
For a Wounded Man Shall Say to his Assailant, if I Live, I Will Kill You.
If I Die, You are Forgiven.
Such is the Rule of Honour.
Omerta
#14
Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:54 PM
Big Jack, on Feb 27 2007, 01:05 AM, said:
Oh yeah, it would be far better if they fired all their voice actors and then took all the time and effort to get new ones. That would really make this game better, and totally different from what it is now, having different voices for the random units.
So tell me, Big Jack, where I'm wrong in the first part. Tell me what good things from Tiberian Sun and Firestorm made their way into CNC3.
Tell me where the Titans are, and tell me where the Mammoth Mk 2 is. Tell me where the hover units, the burrowing units, the tiberian mutants, the Forgotten, the walking units, tell me where
everything that made Tiberian Sun a good game went. Tell me where Nod's laser and tiberian weapons went. Tell me where the originality of the unit types went.
As for the voice acting, when they use the same actor from an aircraft in generals to do an aircraft in CnC3, I see corporate laziness. What do you see?
Let me state this:
CNC3 may even be an enjoyable game. I won't know until I try the full version. But it's not the game we should have gotten, it's not the game that EA claims is moving the genre forward. It's a run-of-the-mill RTS with nothing original whatsoever, and nothing that was good about Tiberian Sun and Firestorm in it.
There are no covering over the sins of EA in this debaucle that is CNC3. Anyone who doesn't see them is just blinding themselves to the obvious, and is part of the reason why the PC market is going downhill. So give yourselves a pat on the back. You're what makes this world worse.
And no, I'm not apologizing for that statement. It's about time somebody stood up for originality in games instead of kowtowing to the developers who make the same trash over and over again instead of pushing things forward. It's about time somebody took a stand for people using their BRAINS. I, for one, value intelligence over following a crowd, and I refuse to support this pathetic attempt of EA to cater to the masses.
Because if CNC3 is popular and sells well, what will we have? The same thing that happened when the first CNC did well: copycat games by the truckload...because CNC3 is just a bolstered copycat of Generals and other mediocre RTSs out there. The genre should be PAST that point, but instead of that, EA is trying to bring it back down there again.
I'm done here. Flame me, hate me, do whatever, but know that I, at least, have a clean conscious knowing that I'm not helping degenerate the PC gaming market, which is having a hard enough time thanks to consoles.
#15
Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:22 PM
Gameplay -- not sure there. I did mess around with the prologue and the tutorial... it was ok.
#16
Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:27 PM
1. The fact is regardless of what EA does, they actually do make good games!
2. They did create a new faction did they not? Isnt unoriginality what people want? Then you say not much has changed? WTF? So your saying its different but its the same?
3. Ive never even played the C&C games before so tomorrow when I play the demo it will be the first time I ever play the game. I never played the other ones so the games new to me, buying it WOULD be worth it to me would it not?
P.S. I dont care about EA and they don't care about me, I am fine with that. Xyvik your the kind of person that generally hates EA anyways, so of course your going to come out and BLAH BLAH about EA, just shut up and stay on topic, it pisses me off even more that you frickin started a debate in a non debate topic! NOW I AM GETTING OFF TOPIC!
Also sorry if I was harsh...I got nothing against you, and I dont wanna be mean to people that I dont wanna be mean to. lol.
#18
Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:06 PM
Videoteck, on Feb 26 2007, 06:27 PM, said:
In all honesty, no. Because you have no reference at all as to C&C's legacy.
_____________________________
Quote
I'm sure you guys can figure it out like you did so fast with the EaW demo.
This post has been edited by Mighty BOB!: 26 February 2007 - 10:07 PM
Wesforce said:
Finger said:
#19
Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:41 PM
Quote
and on your #3... then you'll never know how badly they screwed up the series...
This post has been edited by Gray__Fox: 26 February 2007 - 10:43 PM


I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
~Voltaire 1694-1778
Free inquiry requires that we tolerate diversity of opinion and that we respect the right of individuals to express their beliefs, however unpopular they may be, without social or legal prohibition or fear of success." -- Paul Kurtz
#20
Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:43 PM
there's so much POTENTIAL for a third tiberian war. The third race, by all accounts, doesn't even play that different from the others (they have to mine tiberium too...aren't they aliens?) It's just...
Blah. I don't want to offend anyone, or have anyone get their feelings hurt, it's just that CNC3 is not what it should be, not by a long shot.
Sign In
Register
Help




MultiQuote














