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Foshjedi2004
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Computer games are good for you, say researchers who studied the complex social interactions in the popular shoot-em-up Counter-Strike.

To people who do not play computer games shoot-em-ups such as Counter-Strike and Quake look very straightforward.
You log on, you shoot everything that moves with a frightening arsenal of weapons, you log off.

But studies of players and teams are showing that these games are much more complex than many people suspect.

They are revealing the deep community and complex culture surrounding the games, as well as some of the reasons why people find them appealing.



Well i always knew gaming helped improve your hand eye coordination and tactical planning but never knew it was actually good for you.

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Ghostly_Substance
uh.....because games make you social if you are in a guild/clan and you need skill to actually kill other people with skill or just plain lucky? Oh I also forgot you need to remember all the weapons and use them at the right time or else you die. Trying to plan your way through a situation...........

Try avoiding that fact again -.-
The Cheeseinator
gaming does not help social skills, the opposite acutally
Ghostly_Substance
QUOTE(The Cheeseinator @ Dec 22 2006, 11:12 PM) [snapback]21851[/snapback]
gaming does not help social skills, the opposite acutally


Then your lost and looking at the wrong side. I seen clans and I've been in Guilds in SWG & Guild Wars. Battlefield 1942, Veitnam, 2 if you want something done you need to communicate with your friends/clan mate/or random people to actually beat a map properly. Well yes there are people who don't grow in social skill area since they only hang out in public servers but if your serious about gaming and multiplay yes then you gain social skills.
Klarin
I agree with Cheeseinator. Social skills involve the reading of subtle visual cues as well as knowing how to properly interact on the linguistic level. Tone of voice is also important, though games that use VOIP are making that form of online interaction more common. Finally, it's also important to learn how to communicate with those that don't fall into the categories of ally/enemy, or at the very least, potential ally/potential enemy.

Social gaming experience only provides a fraction of the full array of needed social skills.

Klarin
HissingNewt
Gears of War Ranked matches are social too. You MUST interact with your teammates in that.
The Cheeseinator
QUOTE(Ghostly_Substance @ Dec 22 2006, 09:30 PM) [snapback]21857[/snapback]
Then your lost and looking at the wrong side. I seen clans and I've been in Guilds in SWG & Guild Wars. Battlefield 1942, Veitnam, 2 if you want something done you need to communicate with your friends/clan mate/or random people to actually beat a map properly. Well yes there are people who don't grow in social skill area since they only hang out in public servers but if your serious about gaming and multiplay yes then you gain social skills.


huh.gif oooooooookkkkkkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyy...

It's more than communication, it's the... passion... the emotion.... the feeling that's missing from these games. In all physcical attributes you couldn't really tell a computer personnality from a human one.

Online gaming is.... what's the word I'm looking for? I dunno. But anyway one thing that online gaming has taught me is that because of fact that you are anonymus you can be as big of jerk as you like. Playing BF2 has taught me that a lot of gamers are rude jerks. There is hardly any etiquitte, politeness, and just general "good will". People gun each other down to get the vehicle they want, they block doorways and do other annoying things just because they think it's so much fun to piss everyone else off. They like to cuss like no other and most of the chat messages are like: "you ****ing noob" "i own you" "WTF noob" "noob" etc. It gets real old after a while. In the REAL WORLD interacting with real people the average person is generally less rude and obnoxious towards thier fellow men.

On the great world wide web communication is cold emotionless.
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Social skills involve the reading of subtle visual cues as well as knowing how to properly interact on the linguistic level.
My point exactly. Little emotion can is displayed by these crude lines of text, even with differnt fonts, emoticons, and colors. Can you detect the spectrum of emotions in an e-mail message? No. Although now we do have windows live and such with microphones and cameras where we can actually see and hear each other, it's a poor substitute for a face to face conversation. Technology may come to the point where these interactions may be almost as good as in the flesh but could be a ways off.
HissingNewt
There's Xbox Live vision. biggrin.gif
The Cheeseinator
yeah but all I hear over xbox live is the same stuff as on PC "!@#$ !@# !@$# NOOB! @#@!# NOOB @#$#@" etc.

the main probelm is the anonymity, it turns people into jerks
HissingNewt
I don't hear that at all on Gears of War. Play Ranked games and mute jackasses.
Luga
Gaming is great for me, without it I'd go insane of boredom <.<
Durge
I’ve played RTS games since I was a small kid and it’s given me a tactical and strategic mind. But I agree with The Cheeseinator that online gaming and MMORPGs do not help social skills but can turn people into isolated recluses.
Farfalo
Gaming does not improve social skills like general comments, it improves your ability to plan out and work together. If you actually play with a good group of guys(or girls), and you're communicating, eventually you WILL get better. Gaming is a sport. The only difference is you don't get stronger from playing video games. But, if you are horrible at planning anything, play games for a while, get tips on maps and such. Eventually, you'll become more aware of situations and be able to overcome them better.

That brings up something else. Awareness. Gaming makes you aware. After an hour or two of playing Counter-strike or some other game against really talented players, you'll be on your toes. You'll learn to play like them. Adapt. Eventually, you'll be more aware which can help you in many ways like perhaps even learning. Maybe you're in a second language class and you really hate it, perhaps you'll learn to listen to your iPod and fit in a word here and there. tongue.gif

The point is, gaming helps you develop. Not in the biggest ways, but ways that would improve your sense of entertainment and possibly even learning.
Luga
Well I learned most of my English from games tongue.gif Their voices along with text, made me able to understand things alot better, mixed with the texted shows on norwegian TV.

I barely learned anything new from school, I learned most of it already in games happy.gif
Stargazer
plus playing really terrible games which would usually make you lose IQ points helps you concentrate on boring stuff you hate, therefore helping you in school.

damn Religious Education, one more year of that >_<
Farfalo
QUOTE(Stargazer @ Dec 23 2006, 05:10 PM) [snapback]21975[/snapback]
damn Religious Education, one more year of that >_<



Same here. Not so painful though. 80's and 90's are fine for Religion tongue.gif
Ghostly_Substance
damn you people missed my point and especially Cheese.....ah whatever its your opinions -.-
Droid
It is good for you.
1) It makes you think
2) It improves your reaction time
3) It helps you interact better with strangers
4) If helps you learn history and language (sometimes - dependingon the game)

my thoughts why:
1) Strategy games make you think about whta to do etc, in a way, it helps you organize by planning, making you remeber to do so
2) FPS gams mostly, help improve reaction time and make you take in a lot of information in a short amount of time, as in, where's that sniper that just shot you in the leg?
3) It helps you talk to strangers as it allows you to be more comfortable around them, seeing as 90% of the people you'll play with you've never met, and, hopefully, never will meet. (Yea I wouldn't want to meet anyone here face-to-face...hell knows who is a stalker). If you're not a total idiot, it'll help you stay alert as to when someone is trying to stalk you etc.
4) Well, the fact is that I learned almost all the german I know from playing WWII games - commands, greetings, expressions of thanks, etc. Same way I learn Japanese by watching subbed anime tongue.gif Anyhow, the language they use is often correct, so you get to look beyond the grammar and stuff and to see howt hey actually speak it. And History, if you're playing a historically-accurate game (as in, non-fiction - Star Wras is out of question), you can take a look into how life was like during these wars - what weather it was, etc. Of course, you'd have to be more...observative than your average FPS player to see this stuff - and to be more sympathetic...kinda hard when yoou respawn after you die, but hey - if you take each of your deaths seriously, you'd play a lot better too tongue.gif. Let your survavila insticts take over tongue.gif.
Durge
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3) It helps you interact better with strangers



What you’re saying here are opinions not facts. First, interacting in a cyber world is nothing compared to interacting with strangers in the real word, - you can’t tell what there thinking through their facial expressions, and even if you do click on a button that says smile, it’s not the same as it’s not in the moment.
Online cyberspace is cold world where you don’t know what kind of people you’re talking to, and even if you do talk to them they could be lying. You’ve gotta be careful and aware that many people use their anonymity good and bad reasons.
The Cheeseinator
QUOTE(Ghostly_Substance @ Dec 23 2006, 12:24 PM) [snapback]22008[/snapback]
damn you people missed my point and especially Cheese.....ah whatever its your opinions -.-


ohmy.gif you had a point!?

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sorry that was unnessecary. All That I derived from your post is that communication and cooperation is needed in MP games. While True it dosn't quite cover the social aspect of uh socialness.
Corsair
Yea... I don't know so much about the social aspect of video games, I believe it has more negative then positive

I would say the only things I have gained from video games is fast typing (Starcraft cheat codes biggrin.gif ) and pretty good hand-eye coordination
Luga
Hm.. Yeah, unfortunatly, alot of people act like idiots, thinking they are cool by cursing the most over games. It's really sad.

It's hard to find mature people online theese days
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